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NMU
Nov 20, 2007 14:02:20 GMT -5
Post by Marvin the Misfit on Nov 20, 2007 14:02:20 GMT -5
Why all the fuss anyway? So what? People post stupid crap on the internet. You're all acting like that's something new.
And I have no sympathy for that Krauh guy at all. I've built enough websites to know that he has spent almost no time on the one he's got. All he did was throw up a PHP module, then sit on his butt. You've got some 20 html pages that it looks like you hand wrote yourself and keep updating by hand. Then he sits there and whines, "oh, I have no time to spend on this and I'm up till 5 in the morning," bullshit. A php module does not require any work at all once it's set up. They all look the same.
And it looks like crap too.
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NMU
Nov 24, 2007 18:09:53 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Nov 24, 2007 18:09:53 GMT -5
Actually that's a good point. But still I think I want to leave Krauh out of this. You can say whatever you want though.
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Moose
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 16:04:47 GMT -5
Post by Moose on Nov 29, 2007 16:04:47 GMT -5
Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend who, said calm is gettting a divorce. Hmmmm...wonder why? Maybe she got tried of his shit!!!!! Wonder since his wife (pending divorce) is Jamaican if he will loose his citizenship in that country, guess he can't run and hide there anymore. Heard also county is feed up with his prying around. No doubt!!!
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Moose
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 16:06:06 GMT -5
Post by Moose on Nov 29, 2007 16:06:06 GMT -5
sorry misspelled couple words, please forgive me since it was calm that I was referring to.
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 16:30:40 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Nov 29, 2007 16:30:40 GMT -5
well, i don't want to comment on any of that because then i wouldn't be any better than calm. his personal life is not mine to judge or use to attack him. that's his game, not my game.
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Moose
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 17:00:09 GMT -5
Post by Moose on Nov 29, 2007 17:00:09 GMT -5
Just thought it was interesting that my friend shared such news, yes, being petty however, just a FYI post mostly due to the nature of the subject.
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Moose
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 17:05:37 GMT -5
Post by Moose on Nov 29, 2007 17:05:37 GMT -5
The NMU is so one sided yes, and with that said since they kept me banned I think that it may explain why some of the posters on that website are so rude and mean and think that it's their way or no way. As I have knowledge of some of the players on that site, I think that most would agree that those that post on that site are those that think they are owed something from the state & government. Just a thought.
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 17:29:05 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Nov 29, 2007 17:29:05 GMT -5
hmm... well, if it explains why they banned you then it is pretty ridiculous.
do you go into the pellston general store a lot? do i see you in person? it says your location is pellston and i work at the store there on weekends.
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NMU
Nov 29, 2007 21:13:01 GMT -5
Post by Gene on Nov 29, 2007 21:13:01 GMT -5
well, i don't want to comment on any of that because then i wouldn't be any better than calm. his personal life is not mine to judge or use to attack him. that's his game, not my game. Pretty cool of you. Is this a sign that you may actually be, oh, say, MOVING ON AND PUTTING THIS ALL BEHIND YOU?... Possibly?... :/ Aah, forget it. Jes' a thought...
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NMU
Nov 30, 2007 1:26:00 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Nov 30, 2007 1:26:00 GMT -5
if you'll actually look at my participation in nmu and not just listen to what was said about me, i never personally attacked people. Sure, i used the "redneck retard' line a few times, but i was generally talking about everyone and talking about them mentally, not their lifestyle or anything personal.
It basically went down like this...
I joined the forum and started debating issues like I do in any webforum, mostly about how the bible is crap and my support of gay rights, since there were a lot of homophobic comments in the forum to respond to when I got there. Of course none of them had anything substantial to rebuttal anything I said to them, so they turned around and started saying that I was gay. (we all know anyone who supports gay rights is gay) then when I started beating them in general at other discussions the talk turned to my son and that my son and I were some sort of welfare cases or something or that I showed my son porn and stuff. I don't know where it came from. One idiot makes one comment and another restates it and then it becomes a fact to them, I guess.
Then sidfick started posting personal messages to me of a sexual proposal nature (no, I'm not making this up). Sidfick asked me what I was doing on saturday and how big my you-know-what is. I very politely told him I was not gay, nor was I interested in "experimenting" and he just exploded. The next thing I knew sidfick just wouldn't shut up about what kind of a "f#g" I was and a "q##r" and all the rest. I never showed the slightest signs of wanting to reveal the conversation to anyone but he just seemed hell bent on making sure no one would think he was gay (we all know anyone who hates gay people is not gay) so he just started calling me gay all the time. but because I didn't give a rip and don't consider being gay an insult, I just ignored it. Of course, people like that take a non-response as a sign of weakness so it just got worse and worse and worse.
Then they all started talking in the chat applet about how I use "big words" to try to be better or smarter than everyone and that I was making up the fact that I was editor in cheif of the ncmc paper and was a psych major for 3 years and bunch of the other non-fantastic true things I always say about myself. Before I knew it, somewhere I had apparently literally said that I was smarter than everyone in northern michigan, even though I never said anything literally close to that at any time. I guess if something gets repeated enough times by enough people it becomes true.
since then, I'm labelled a trouble maker of some kind. The only sort of trouble I've ever raised in NMU was to ask Krauh to push some rules in the threads so people didn't constantly interrupt discussions to start insulting me to deflect from the topics at hand. I've never at any time broken a single rule in nmu. I've never told a lie about anything, I've never threatened anyone (though i was physically threatened at least 50 times by 6 different members), I even waited over 4 months before i revealed the conversation where sidfick hit on me, which i did because i was just sick of him saying things about my son. for about 90% of my time in nmu, i never replied to a single thing sidfick or calm have ever posted, I just ignored them.
Now for the past 3 months or so whenever someone suddenly out of nowhere starts bringing me up, i show up and respond to it, and then they say I'm whining and instigating things and wont leave the site. Now there are even rumors that I am showing up with false id's. I guess there can only be one person in the world that would disagree with their beliefs, so anyone who shows up and disagrees with them is me in disguise.
all this because i said things they didn't agree with and said it too well for their liking. I don't behave any different in this forum than I did there. If you label someone as being a certain way enough times, it just becomes common knowlege that they are that way. I've been nothing but nice to those people and anytime I wasn't it was in direct reaction to their malicious behavior.
Oh, and since people are still confused about this, I am still a member of nmu, I just hardly ever post. I have never at anytime been banned from the place.
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NMU
Dec 4, 2007 0:50:20 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Dec 4, 2007 0:50:20 GMT -5
Just posted this in NMU, figured I would also post it here because Krauh is probably going to delete it. northernmichiganupdate.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1486&start=0#forumpost7379Here is Krauh's post, who brought this topic up all on his own... Once again members of NMF have decided to slander NMU and its members and come here posting our members personal info.Moose/Fink caused it under Finks account that he's claimed wasnt his several times here along with a few other I.P.'s that are the same connected to supposedly a community computer.If thats the case its not me causing what I'm about to do, its him that has caused it.Sorry to those effected if it is in fact so and this willl take place as soon as NMF allows another post on its site slandering this one. Here is a copy of the PM I sent the individual because they insist the reasons for these actions were other than what they were. Fink/Moose U were banned for posting a real name.I unbanned you tho.You have proved that you are Moose with your recent post here and on Benji's site.If you were banned you wouldn't be able to see the site understand that? You can't log in as Moose tho because I deleted that account because you posted personal info and thats the only reason. Accept the truth and stop making up stories or I'll ban U again and you won't see the site period.Thats what banned is.I won't care if its a public computer anymore or any other exuse. How would you like your email published?Or some tips to your name?Probably not a whole lot. I'm not the type of person that would do such a thing but you seem the type.Should I change policy?I mean since I'm such a one sided person and everyone at this site is according to you all. I never treated you unjust or made anything up about you.I'll admit I let people get away with more than I agree with on my site even but In my opinion they embarass themselves not me.My goals aren't theirs and my opinion is mine and if you wish to disclose members personal lives and info keep doing it at Benji's site cause I don't wan't it here.That plain english enough for U and the rest of NMF that wish to believe the slander a few of U type.I won't judge yas all just because there are a few of you there that can't get over the fact that we can get over and do without you.It was so long before you all showed up and I get tired of "As Northern Michigan Turns." So enjoy your lives sorry it didnt work out and glad you found a site like NMF where you can talk openly about how yas like child porn and breakin wind on cellphones. We might have fewer conversations but I hope we have better ones than that And to make it official and not my one sided opinion I'll even actually throw up a real poll connected to this post were members can vote but I don't think the results are gonna really matter cause I already stated the clincher. Here is my post in reaction... For the record, moose did say in NMF that he was banned from NMU for posting personal information. He argued however, that it was a front for the real reason- being that he stated unpopular opinions. Therefore he did not lie, he merely stated his perspective on the issue which contradicts your perspective. An interpretation of the motives of someone's actions does not constitute slander, only a misrepresentation of the actions themselves. Otherwise the statement "bush bombed iraq for oil," would be slander. A statement of the intentions behind an act can be neither proven nor disproven, it falls into the area of opinion. You're an extremely odd person to be giving a lecture on "websites that allow slander." In NMU I have been called a homosexual perhaps 800 times or more, which is untrue. It has also been said some 30 times that I did not go to ncmc, which is untrue. It has been said that my son and I are on welfare. It has been said that I am 5' 9" inches tall. That my son was a test tube baby. It was said that my son's mother is a lesbian. None of these things are factually correct, opinion or no opinion. And a few of them were said by a person who actually knows he is lying, which legally constitutes slander. You just sat there and twittled your thumbs about all of this. But if we turn around and say "NMU sucks," suddenly we're committing slander. This is especially ridiculous considering that you don't even use your real name online. Even if we were committing slander- which we are not- it would be slander against a web handle. Since I use my real name with my real photo myself, my son and his mother are all identifiable people. If I wanted to be a real prick I could probably easily find incidents where you encouraged these slanderous remarks. It looks like someone can dish it out but can't take it. Get a diaper. And don't say "well, if you're stupid enough to use your real name that's what you deserve." The civil rights amendment of 1954 would aberrantly disagree with that comment. A victim of a civil crime is never required to be held in any responsibility for his being a victim, nor should he.
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NMU
Dec 4, 2007 2:58:47 GMT -5
Post by Apple Pie Princess on Dec 4, 2007 2:58:47 GMT -5
why dont you all just kill each other and get it over with? that way the restof us dont have to hear abou it.
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NMU
Dec 4, 2007 11:37:09 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Dec 4, 2007 11:37:09 GMT -5
You don't have to hear about it apple or any other sort of personal attack. Just don't click the "fight club."
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Julia
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NMU
Dec 4, 2007 21:33:22 GMT -5
Post by Julia on Dec 4, 2007 21:33:22 GMT -5
This thread proves that men are as bad as women for bitching, good stuff guys!
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NMU
Dec 5, 2007 9:17:52 GMT -5
Post by Benji Duncan on Dec 5, 2007 9:17:52 GMT -5
Hmm, well put yourself in our shoes Julia. There are two websites for people in northern michigan, this one and that one. That one is run by some redneck who thinks everyone who disagrees with him deserves ridicule or to get banned. If your community only had two local community websites and one of them was made to look like a community website but was really made to promote a certain viewpoint you would probably have an issue with that too. So there is more at play here than just clashing personalities.
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