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Post by Apple Pie Princess on Dec 13, 2007 13:46:26 GMT -5
spare the rod spoil the child. but you punishment should also be swift and not done in anger. The bible says all these things.
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Post by Benji Duncan on Dec 16, 2007 13:53:07 GMT -5
Yes it does and the second one is a wise piece of advice. It also says that if a child disrespects his parents in public the child should be stoned to death.
Go to a prison and ask the men if their parents practiced some form of corporal punishment. I think you'd be surprised by their answer. Well no, I don't think you'd be surprised, which is why your statement is kind of ignorant.
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Post by Marvin the Misfit on Dec 31, 2007 11:49:51 GMT -5
No, that you are the parent and you are in charge. Its pretty much a last resort though I wouldn't suggest it as standard discipline. That's not a point. That's not teaching anything. When the child is an adult you won't be in charge anymore, so that lesson doesn't build up any character.
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Post by Julia on Jan 1, 2008 20:46:17 GMT -5
It teaches them that certain things are bad or wrong, they will carry that message into adulthood even if they don't associate it with being spanked.
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Post by Benji Duncan on Jan 2, 2008 0:26:30 GMT -5
Julia, no matter what you do children always view your relationship in a political sense. You want something and they want something, who gets their way? Moral absolutism is an adult concept.
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Post by Julia on Jan 2, 2008 21:04:30 GMT -5
The parent, the "what i say goes" mentality.
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Post by Benji Duncan on Jan 2, 2008 21:05:51 GMT -5
That's all the kid hears.
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Post by Julia on Jan 3, 2008 20:33:22 GMT -5
What more do they need?
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Post by Benji Duncan on Jan 3, 2008 20:55:06 GMT -5
a sense of empathy for others is what they need.
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Post by crowtree on Jan 9, 2008 23:07:46 GMT -5
hmmm. do i think other people should spank? depends on the parent(s).
i certainly didn't agree with it when i was a child... but i seemed to have turned out okay.
discipline can include spanking. i don't see why not. the most important rules of discipline, no matter what the punishment... i mean... consequence... are setting rules and then following through once they've been broken.
the kids with behavioral issues are the ones who can... say... jump on the couch and one time be ignored. another time get yelled at but have nothing happen. another time get a time out. another time get a spanking.
i say i don't plan to spank... but i never planned on bottle feeding my son when he was baby, either; bleeding nipples said otherwise. maybe if i have a really tough to control child i'll spank.
lord knows i remember the wooden spoon. and cutting my own switch. ....no. i didn't live in the 1800's.
i don't care what other people do as long as they can control their own selves before disciplining. that's how "accidents" and hurt feelings happen.
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Post by Benji Duncan on Jan 10, 2008 0:02:31 GMT -5
Punishment teaches children to resolve issues by trying to punish other people. This is how all abusive people are created.
No, you should not threaten a child and not fall through with it. But the threat was the problem in that scenario.
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Post by Marvin the Misfit on Jan 10, 2008 19:38:03 GMT -5
You didn't respond to my point Benji. Couldn't agree more. Which point was that Marv? That you're splitting hairs with calling what you do "control," and calling other methods "punishment." The reason the child does what you say is because you're introducing negative stimuli as a consequence for his behavior. So how is that not punishment?
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Post by Gingy on Jan 22, 2008 23:54:24 GMT -5
i was only hit once in my life. i had been aiming a rubberband in my parent's livingroom. i accidentally let go after my Mom had warned me to stop aiming the thing. it hit her on the cheek. she gave me one good slap. well deserved. but reallly i remember none of us getting any spankings.
i think it is up to the parents. being a non-mother i can only say that i am not in any position to give an opinion that has any value to it.
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